We can cross number 4 off the list, as the Rapture didn't occur on the Feast of Trumpets this year. That leaves us with number 5 on the list for 2023. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Well, Tisha B'Av is out for this year. It looks like Trumpets is next on the list, unless option # 5 comes first.

Tisha B'Av, the 9th day of Av 9, comes on 7/26/2023 – 7/27/2023 this year. It just so happens that Strong’s concordance G726 is the Greek word harpazo (for rapture).  

After 2023, the next one will be 2030....seven years later.

I guess we can scratch another one off the list.

You didn't think I could do "short" did you? See there! Lol

Well, we can scratch Ascension Day off the list. Isn't it ironic that the Bilderberg Group annual meeting took place (began) on Ascension Day this year? This is their 69th meeting thus far, since its beginning in 1954.

Are you still adjusting your timeline?

I agree with that assessment. Regarding biblical chronologies, most chronologists start from creation and work their way forward to the present. For most chronologists, 130 AM is listed for the birth of Seth. The years for the biblical events are AM years (anno mundi - Latin for "year from creation") and BC/AD years. AM years are just numbered years....years from creation. BC years are also just numbered years...years from/before the birth of Jesus. AD years are also just numbered years...years after the birth of Jesus. The BC/AD system of numbering years is different. The only way to have a BC creation date is to find a known date of a historical (and biblical) event and assign it to the AM year for that event and then work your way back to creation. Whatever your number of years is between two events (AM dates), you would add those same number of years from your known BC year to get the BC date for the previous event. For example, most historians say that the destruction of Jerusalem and the first Temple occurred in 586 BC (although some say 587 BC). My chronology reckoning for this biblical/historical event is 3374 AM. Now, working your way backward 11 years to when the last king of Judah, Zedekiah, began his reign (in 3363 AM), you come to the year 597 BC (586 + 11 = 597). Then you just keep working your way back to creation to get the BC year for creation. In this instance (my chronology), the date for creation is 3960 BC (1 AM). Chronology of Mankind: 6,000 Years of History Pt 1 :: By Randy Nettles - Rapture Ready You can double-check all of your numbers. For the above example of 597 BC and its counterpart year of 3363 AM, you can check it two ways (double-check). You can take the creation year of 3960 (BC) and deduct 3363 anno mundi years and you get 597 (BC). You can also take the creation year of 3960 (BC) and deduct 597 years from it and you will come up with the event year of 3363 AM (3363 anno mundi years). Recently I researched Ussher's chronology and compared it with mine. His creation date is 4004 BC, only 4 years off of Newton's and your creation date of 4000 BC. My creation date is 3960 BC, so there is a difference of 44 years. I discovered our event dates were within 1 or 2 years until we get to the death of Solomon and the subsequent kings of Judah's reigns. Ushher, a 17th-century chronologist didn't have the knowledge or the benefit of E.R. Thiel's excellent book, The Mysterious Numbers of the Hebrew Kings, regarding the chronology of the kings of Judah and Israel. It is deemed the definitive work and reckoning of the calendar years on this topic. Ussher reckoned approximately 387 years from the reign of Rehoboam to the destruction of Jerusalem and the first Temple, while Thiel has only 345 years between these events. These 42 extra years are the majority of the difference between our two chronologies. This is why Ussher has 4004 BC for creation while I have 3960 BC.

As your drawing shows, the 131st year is not until the line (border) between the 131st and 132nd year. Seth was born "in" the 130th year. It would be something like 130.1 years....still has a way to go before it reaches the 131st year. The chronology of the patriarchs doesn't give specific dates of months and days, only years.

Ok, that'll work. Yeah, me too. Dates always make my head hurt. LOL

I appreciate that. I also apologize for my assumptions regarding your motives. I know you want to get your chronology right, as I want to also. I don't think I explained my conversions from BC dates to AM dates very well. It was kind of confusing. I will try to rectify this, but without all the dates/years. Let's work together on this and see what we can come up with. We'll hook up on the post "in what year was Seth born" on the next one, if you want to.

You have the same 4000 BC date for creation as Newton. I don't know if that's where you got it or not. If you came up with it on your own, that's great. However, you are both wrong, because the math doesn't work out as I demonstrated. I am not going to argue/debate about a few years, because I was trying to use your years compared to what they should be. However I will argue over 40 years. You said, "BC dates should be subtracted from 4000 to find the AM date. You subtracted the AM date from 4000 and came up with junk." What are you talking about? Didn't the math work out the way I showed you? Of course it did. In my examples, you show me where it doesn't work. Basically, as I showed you above, you deduct the BC year event (if known) from the creation BC year, to get the AM years. Let's take Isaac's birth for example (something we now both agree on since I convinced you that yours was wrong). Isaac's birth was in 1890 BC. You deduct 1890 BC from 4000 BC and you get the AM (anno mundi) date of 2110 AM. This is an AM date you agree on. Now, you can double-check this by subtracting 2110 AM from 4000 BC and you get 1890 BC. Same thing. You can do this on every chronology date and it works, but only if you have the right creation date. It's like saying 7 -3 = 10 and 10-7 = 3. I'm going to try this one more time using my numbers (different from yours by a few years) and your creation date of 4000 BC. If there are 325 years from Isaac's birth to Moses' birth, then 1890 BC - 325 = 1565 BC or 2110 AM + 325 = 2435 AM. So, let's check it with the creation date and see if they are correct. 4000 BC - 1565 BC = 2435 AM ....and 4000 BC - 2435 AM = 1565 BC. Now, tell me how this math doesn't work! However, 1565 BC isn't the correct date for this event, because you have the wrong creation date. It should be 1525 BC. Just as I said before, if you keep going you will have a date of 625 BC (instead of 585/586 BC) for the destruction of the Temple and a date for the crucifixion of Jesus of72 AD (instead of 32/33 AD). These are recorded historical events that we can be sure of, other than a few years (not 40). Just as you did before, with the wrong dates for Abraham's birth and elsewhere, you have added too many years between biblical events and it's throwing your chronology off. I understand you are doing this to fit it into your narrative of 1007 and 7049 years, but your chronology has to be correct. Your BC years have to correspond with your AM years and your BC years have to match with known historical records for those events. It appears you are attempting to confuse the average reader by saying the math doesn't work and the continuing changing of your chronology. My chronology, Chronology of Mankind: 6,000 Years of History Pt 1 :: By Randy Nettles - Rapture Ready hasn't changed and the links I listed in the other posts match mine (by 9 years). I can't wait to see your revised product.

You can't have it both ways. Once you change your AM dates, you have to change your BC/AD dates. I see now why you were so reluctant to use BC/AD dates. Let's go over some basics. Your BC date for creation is 4000 BC, which was Newton's theory. To determine a BC date for an event, you must subtract that BC event date from 4000 BC to get the AM date. This is the law of chronology and mathematics. Let's do a few examples: When you change the date for the birth of Isaac to 2110 AM, you get 1890 BC for the date. You can check these two ways. 1) Subtract 2110 AM from 4000 BC = 1890 BC. 2) Subtract 1890 BC from 4000 BC = 2110 AM. Now, let's do Moses' chronology. We know Moses was born 325 years after Isaac was born. You say he was born in 2435 AM (no change). 1) 4000 BC - 2435 AM = 1565 BC. 2) 4000 BC - 1565 BC = 2435 AM. Your timeline chronology for the birth of Moses is now 1565 BC and not 1525 BC, which is what it should be by historical accounts. This isn't real clear until we get to some verifiable historical records, such as the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem in 586 BC. Your chronology: Moses was 80 when the Exodus occurred. 1) 4000 BC - 2514 AM = 1486 BC. 2) 4000 BC - 1486 = 2514 AM. By all historical records the date was 1446 BC. 480 years later the construction on the temple began (4th year of Solomon). 1) 4000 BC - 2994 AM = 1006 BC. 4000 BC - 1006 BC = 2994 AM. The historical date was actually 966 BC (still 40 years off). 36 years later Solomon died (40 years as king). There were 345 years from the death of Solomon to the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple. That's 381 years total from the Temple's construction to its destruction. So, your chronology would have this event at 3376 AM or 625 BC. 1) 4000 BC - 3375 AM = 625 BC. 2) 4000 BC - 625 BC = 3375 AM. As all historians known the destruction of the 1st Temple occurred in 586/585 BC. You are still off by 40 years, and this will continue with the following biblical events including the crucifixion of Jesus and into modern times. You can't rewrite history or the true chronology of mankind. The problem with your chronology (not your 7049 theory) is you have the wrong creation date. It should be 3960 - 3968 BC (or you can have Jesus' crucifixion at 70 AD). This will solve all of your mathematical and chronological problems.

Correction of typo: From the death of Solomon to the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple was 345 years, so this occurred in 3376 AM or 625 BC.

You can't keep your 4000 BC date for creation and make the changes you said without increasing your remaining BC dates by 40 years. Here is your chronology with these changes: If you change your date for the birth of Abraham to 2009 AM, your BC date will be 1991 BC. Add 100 years for the birth of Isaac, your AM date will be 2109 AM or 1890 BC. Add 325 years from this to the birth of Moses brings you to 2435 AM or 1565 BC (The true date is 1525 BC). 80 years later was the Exodus in 2514 AM or 1486 BC (should be 1446 BC). There was 480 years from the Exodus to the beginning of construction on the Temple according to 1 Kings 6:1 and 11:42, so that would be 2994 AM or 1006 BC (should be 965/966 BC). Solomon died 36 years later in 3030 AM or 970 BC (should be 930 BC). From the death of Solomon to the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple was 345 years, so this occurred in 33765AM or 625 BC. The destruction of the first Temple actually occurred in 586/585 BC according to secular history. We can keep going and your date for the crucifixion will be 72 AD.....40 years off. This is why you need to keep up with BC/AD dates as well as AM dates.

So, your creation date will change from 4000 BC to 3960 or 3969 BC?

It finally went through.

Regarding my previous post about our chronologies differing starting at the birth of Abraham. This throws one of our chronologies off by 60 years. You have 387 years between the birth of Isaac and the birth of Moses, and I have 325 years. One of us has to be "off." Besides the Bible, here is a good website that agrees with my reckoning of 325 years. Jacob and Joseph Timeline (biblestudy.org). There are 261 years between the birth of Isaac and the death of Joseph, and there are 64 years between Joseph's death and Moses' birth. Old Testament Timeline (biblestudy.org). Their chronology is only 9 years different from mine. Chronology of Mankind: 6,000 Years of History Pt 1 :: By Randy Nettles - Rapture Ready You have the birth of Isaac in 2050 AM and the birth of Moses in 2437 AM, which equals 387 years. For your chronology to be corrected, you need to do one of two things. 1) You can keep your date for the birth of Isaac and deduct 60-62 years from your date for the birth of Moses (to get the correct 325 years) and all subsequent events... Or....2) You could keep your date for the birth of Moses and add 59-60 years to the birth of Isaac and all the previous events before that. This means you would come to the same result as mine for the creation date of 3960 BC or 3969 for biblestudy.org's date.

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